This classic from the FM archives is our most popular interview ever. In it, skincare expert Caroline Hirons explains the right order to apply products and tells us how she really feels about “clean” beauty, INCI lists, the Environmental Working Group (EWG), the beauty-industry patriarchy, myths about pores, acid solutions, hyaluronic acid, and more. The interview originally aired in 2020. We’ll be back next week with a new and very special episode!
Below are links to the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi) reach out to us on Instagram, Twitter or via email (info@fatmascara.com).
Caroline Hirons - her instagram
Skin Rocks
Glad We Had This Chat With Caroline Hirons
Skin Care: The Ultimate No-Nonsense Guide - Caroline’s book
The Goop Lab - the Netflix show
Glossier | Solution
Pixi Beauty | Glow Tonic
Paula’s Choice Skin Perfecting 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant
Biologique Recherche P50 Lotion - there are five varieties in the U.S.; this is the OG 1970 version
Kérastase Reflection Mask for Color Treated Hair - Caroline loves the product but not the packaging
Estée Lauder Advanced Night Repair Eye Concentrate Matrix
Caroline suggests applying products in this order (but, she warns, the order is still dependent on the formulas you’re using, so it’s best to consult an aesthetician if you’re unsure): oil or balm cleanser; creamy or foaming cleanser; acids/acid solutions; mists or essences; eye cream; serum (or any face oils that are humectants or have active ingredients); other face oils; moisturizer (but listen to the podcast, because Caroline agrees with us that oils with occlusives can go on last)
Vintner's Daughter | Active Botanical Serum
Avène
Nerida Joy - facialist who is hands on
Jordan Samuel - facialist who is hands on
Renée Rouleau - facialist who is hands on
Kate Somerville - facialist who loves a machine
Joanna Vargas - facialist who loves a machine
Emma Hardie | Moringa Balm Cleanser
Pixi + Caroline Hirons Double Cleanse
Kate Somerville | Under Eye Repair Cream
Clinique or Estée Lauder mascara
Neutrogena | Hydro Boost Hyaluronic Acid Hydrating Face Moisturizer Gel-Cream
Kate Somerville | Deep Tissue Repair Cream with Peptide K8
Darphin | Aromatic Purifying Balm
Hagen-Dazs Pralines & Cream Ice Cream
“Never Too Much” by Luther Vandross