We’re Curious About Jonathan Van Ness…

…and vice versa. In this collaborative episode, Jess & Jenn get vulnerable with Jonathan Van Ness, the Queer Eye star, host of the podcasts Getting Curious and Pretty Curious, and founder of JVN Hair. We swap beauty stories and discuss what first drew us to the industry. Plus, Jonathan opens up his struggles with social media and the bankruptcy of his brand’s parent company, and we chat about the beauty trend cycle, Y2K hair looks, what makes beauty products so nostalgic—and mukbangs, Fortnite, and pickleball.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Jonathan Van Ness 
JVN’s Podcasts: Getting Curious & Pretty Curious 
Co-Host of Queer Eye 
Founder of JVN Hair 
Cécred - Beyoncé's Hair Care Line 
Jane Fonda Fat Mascara Interview 
Kim Kardashian & Allison Statter Fat Mascara Interview 
Heather Widdows Fat Mascara interview 
“The Cutting Edge” Movie 
Over The Top: A Raw Journey To Self-Love by Jonathan Van Ness 
Brené Brown 
Caroline Hirons 
Kristofer Buckle 
Cheekbone Beauty | Balance Blush/Bronzer
DIEUX | Forever Eye Mask 
Lip Smacker 
Alterna Hair Care 
Shu Uemura 
Aveda 
“Gay of Thrones”
America’s Next Top Model 
Sun Moon Stars Karl Lagerfeld Perfume  
CALVIN KLEIN | Ck One Eau De Toilette 
Gucci Rush Perfume 
@thecologneboy 
A'Driane Nieves

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Ep. 539: Tips for Beauty Entrepreneurs, the Miss AI Pageant & The Week’s Beauty News

First, can we talk about the Devil Wears Prada sequel? After that, Jenn & Jess discuss strawberry perfumes; share tips for entrepreneurs from the Estée Lauder Companies' New Incubation Ventures Symposium; and chat about the Miss AI beauty pageant, Troye Sivan's gig as the makeup ambassador for Rabanne, heavy metals in tampons, and why the young people in old television shows look so…not young. Then, let’s Raise A Wand to Makeup By Mario’s universally flattering blush extensions and the new Sarah Creal Beauty mascara.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
‘Devil Wears Prada’ Sequel in the Works – Puck News article
Aline Brosh McKenna, screenwriter
Jaclyn Hill
@bryanboy
Emily in Paris

News:
“The 10 Best Strawberry Fragrances to Spritz This Summer” – by Sophia Panych
Dior | HOLY PEONY
Malin+Goetz | Strawberry Eau De Parfum
Le Monde Gourmand | Fraise Fouettée Eau De Parfum
“Rabanne Announces Troye Sivan as Ambassador” – Business of Fashion article
Miss AI 2024 - Kenza Layli
Dr Kerry McInerney, Research Associate at the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence at the University of Cambridge, quoted in CNN article about Miss AI 2024
Jess attended Estée Lauder’s New Incubation Ventures Symposium
Rich Gersten, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of True Beauty Ventures
Brian Thorne, Partner at Silas Capital
Kelly Dill, Partner at Imaginary Ventures

Science Corner:
Study Finding Heavy Metals in Tampons that Jenn mentions - don’t panic just yet!
“Don’t Panic about Lead in Tampons” – from the Substack Vajenda, by Dr. Jen Gunter (recommended to Jenn by Valerie Monroe)

Raise A Wand:
Homework: We’re asking the fam to help Jess figure out the name of the Clinique mascara that had an ad with a caterpillar. Anyone remember? Call us to tell us, or ask a beauty question, share a thought, or tell us about a product you love: 646-481-8182
Listener Katie: Sex and The City & Aging… why do the actresses in their 30s look older?
The Cut “52 Year Old Woman” Image
Jenn: Sarah Creal | Back Of The Cab Mascara
Kevyn Aucoin | The Volume Mascara
Jess: MAKEUP BY MARIO | Soft Pop Plumping Blush Veil Strawberry Sunset

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How Technology Is Changing Beauty Culture with Dr. Alex Box

Futurist, tech CEO, and makeup artist Alex Box, DDes, is working to make sure that as technology continues to evolve, our humanity and creativity isn’t lost. If you feel like social media, AI, and the metaverse are negatively affecting beauty standards, our self-esteem, and artist creativity, Alex offers an alternative: What if we all work together to change the systems? In this interview, she discusses “digital dignity,” how virtual spaces can inspire real-world connections, how to avoid echo chambers, and V-Metics, a virtual cosmetics software company she founded to help makeup artists transition their skills into the metaverse—and get proper credit for the work they do. 

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Dr. Alex Box, Identity Designer + Beauty Futurist
Alex’s website  
Creative Director at Illamasqua (2008 - 2015)
Founder of V-Metics: the world’s first virtual cosmetic software (launching soon!)
Toyah 
Boy George 
Greenpeace International
CND (Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament)
“The Carrier Bag Theory of Fiction” by Ursula K. Le Guin 
Clubhouse 
Alex Box by Rankin Hardcover
Wayne McGregor, Choreographer of “​UNIVERSE: A DARK CRYSTAL ODYSSEY”
Avakin - online fashion game
The Folk Of The Faraway Tree Paperback
“Three Studies for Figures at the Base of a Crucifixion”, Francis Bacon
The Bell Jar, Sylvia Plath 
Ted Hughes

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Best of FM: Hairstylist Sally Hershberger

In this confessional and juicy interview, hairstylist Sally Hershberger takes us back to SoCal in the late 1970s, and shares how she parlayed her rock-star-adjacent life into a full-on creative career, working in salons and then on set as one of the fashion world’s favorite hairstylists. She talks about giving Meg Ryan her famous shag haircut, creating products for John Frieda, launching several of her own hair lines, and how much the salon industry has changed in the last decade. Plus, did you know our very own Jessica Matlin once did Joan Jett’s makeup? That’s just one of the stories that comes out during this interview, which originally aired in 2019. We’ll be back with all new episodes on Friday, July 12!

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Sally Hershberger
Hairdresser Paul McGregor
Hairdresser Arthur Johns
Photographer Herb Ritts
Photographer Matthew Rolston
Hairstylist Chris McMillan - creator of “The Rachel”
Photographer Helmut Newton
Siddha Yoga - the ashram that drew Sally to New York
Sally Hershberger Glam Waves Style Shaper - no longer available (but, more products available on Sally’s website!)
John Frieda
“Big Hair” - the article in New York Magazine that Jess mentions
Hairstylist Jen Atkin
Sally Hershberger Uptown NYC
Sally Hershberger Los Angeles
Sally Hershberger Nomad NYC
Serge Normant (Serge Normant at John Frieda is now closed)
24K Daily Hair Vitamins - currently unavailable
SALLY HERSHBERGER | 24k Get Gorgeous Shampoo - Sally’s fave
SALLY HERSHBERGER |24k Get Gorgeous Conditioner - Sally’s fave
SALLY HERSHBERGER |24k Supreme Body Volumizing Mousse - apply to wet hair for instant body
SALLY HERSHBERGER |24k Liquid Assets Daily Conditioner Remedy - (at-home keratin) mist onto hair when wet or dry for styling
Bumble and Bumble
SALLY HERSHBERGER |24k Golden Touch Nourishing Dry Hair Oil - (must-have for dry hair ; only available in a pack of 6) 
SALLY HERSHBERGER | 24k Root Envy Ultimate Root Boost
SALLY HERSHBERGER |24k Vanity Hair Shaping Balm
YVES SAINT LAURENT | Couture Kajal Eye Pencil
Maybelline

Making Perfume Sexy Again with Kilian Hennessy

Kilian Hennessy, founder of Kilian Paris, talks about his famous last name, the history and semantics of fragrance, and the "potential consequences of making perfumed panties," in this interview, which originally aired in 2019. Plus, he explains why tuberose is better than Cheetos and what it’s like to be part of a big beauty conglomerate like Estée Lauder Companies.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Kilian Hennessy
KILIAN Paris 
KILIAN | Good Girl Gone Bad Eau De Parfum
KILIAN | Love, Don't Be Shy Eau De Parfum
Guerlain 
GUERLAIN | L'Heure Bleue Eau De Parfum
GUERLAIN | Shalimar Eau De Parfum Spray
KILIAN | Vodka On The Rocks Eau De Parfum
Elie Top
Elie Top x KILIAN Scented Jewelry 
John Dempsey
KILIAN | Woman in Gold
KILIAN | Gold Knight

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Ep. 538: Chat GPT's Skincare Advice, Scented Emojis & The Week’s Beauty News

Jenn and Garrett discuss their recent travels, including Garrett's spa experience at a Dubai wellness hotel. Then they ask Chat GPT for skincare advice in real time (things do not go well). Plus: Trends from the new American Society of Plastic Surgeons survey; iRoma’s technology that could make movies (and emojis!) smellable in the near future; an in-shower facial; a sunscreen that won’t sting kids’ eyes; and a body gel that will help you cool off.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Garret Munce - you know him, he’s our new contributor!
SIRO One Za'abeel Hotel
Stretch*d

News:
ASPS (American Society of Plastic Surgeons) Survey 
Dr. Sung at Tribeca Aesthetics 
Botox Bar
iRomaScents
Luvly Survey: “Influenced and inflamed: Should you trust TikTok for skincare advice?”

Raise A Wand:
Homework: Call us with your beauty questions and product suggestions! 646-481-8182
Listener Nadia: Aveeno Positively Radiant Soy, Glycolic Acid, And Kaolin Clay 60 Second In-Shower Facial Cleanser Liquid
Garrett: MALIN + GOETZ | Eucalyptus Smoothing Body Gel + MALIN + GOETZ | Eucalyptus Hand And Body Scrub
Jenn: Bioré Uv Aqua Rich SPF 50 Pa++++ Japanese Daily Moisturizer Sunscreen For Face

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The Truth About Lash Serums, Blue Light & Eye Health with Dr. Nicky Shah

Is blue light bad for your eyes—or your skin? Which lash-growth serums work without harming your eyes? Is it okay to tightline? How do redness-relieving eye drops work, and can you get addicted to them? What’s the best way to remove eye makeup? Ophthalmologist Nicky Shah, MD, cofounder of You & Eye by Dr. Nicky, is going to answer all those questions and talk about lash extensions, tightening, permanent makeup, her favorite mascara, and more in this fun-fact-filled interview, which originally aired in 2022. 

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Dr. Nicky Shah
You & Eye by Dr. Nicky
Keep It Fresh Foaming Cleanser 
Soothe Operator Rollerball Eyelid Serum
Lids, Love & Lash Enhancing Serum
La Mer the Eye Concentrate
Thrive Causemetics Liquid Lash Extensions Mascara
Lancôme Definicils High-Definition Mascara
Lancôme Le Stylo Waterproof All Day Eyeliner
Lumify Redness Reliever Eye Drops
Clinique Take the Day Off Makeup Remover for Lids, Lashes & Lips
La Roche-Posay Respectissime Waterproof Eye Makeup Remover
Clinique Chubby Stick Cheek Colour Balm

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Ep. 537: Makeup Flankers, Hyperosmia & The Week’s Beauty News

Jess & Jenn share highlights from two beauty conferences, and then discuss the copywriting over at Vacation Inc.; the challenges of building a lasting fragrance brand; changes at Space NK; the beauty brands with Olympics tie-ins; new flanker products for Clinique Black Honey; the woman with hyperosmia (a super-sensitive olfactive ability) who can smell Parkinson’s disease; and more. Plus, let’s raise a wand to a twisted gourmand perfume and the excellent, long-lasting blushes from Haus Labs.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
“Becoming Karl Lagerfeld” – series on Disney Plus
Biotulin - Supreme Skin Gel - Anti-Wrinkle Moisturizing Treatment – Karl Lagerfeld’s supposed “Botox in a bottle”
Jess attended a Beauty Independent conference, with Nader Naeymi-Rad.
At the Beauty Matter conference, Jess heard from Harry Richards about Manzanita’s acquisition of D.S. & DURGA – Manzanita is also involved with Byredo and Diptyque
Bettina O’Neill – SVP Business Development, Merchandising & Wholesale at Scentbird
Alissa Valladon – Community Manager at Vacation Inc.

News:
PCA Companies’ first retail acquisition of Space NK
“KISS Announces World-Class Gymnast Suni Lee as Brand Ambassador”
“Milani Cosmetics Teams Up with Top US Women Athletes to Launch “Face Set. Mind Set.” Campaign” with Jordan Chiles, Sabrina Ionescu, Chiaka Ogbogu and Mattie Rogers.
Clinique Black Honey products are expanding! Limited-Edition Clinique Pop Lip + Cheek Oil in Black Honey &
Black Honey High Impact Mascara.
Jess heard from Dr. Elizabeth Hale at a Vacation Inc. party about the impacts of tanning on developing skin cancer

Science Corner:
The Woman Who Could Smell Parkinson’s – New York Times article
Joy participated in a small pilot study in Edinburgh
The scent is connected to higher concentrations of the molecules eicosane & octadecanal, and hippuric acid in the sebum of Parkinson’s patients

Raise A Wand:
Homework: Call us with your beauty questions and product suggestions! 646-481-8182
Listener Hannah: Pink Stork Morning Sickness Sweets for nausea
Jess: Lolita Lempicka Mon Premiere Eau De Perfume Spray
Mugler Angel Elixir Eau De Parfum Refillable Star
Jenn: Haus Labs Color Fuse Longwear Hydrating Glassy Lip + Cheek Blush Balm Stick + honorable mention, Haus Labs Color Fuse Talc-Free Powder Blush with Fermented Arnica

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What It’s Really Like to Start a Beauty Brand, with Diarrha N'Diaye-Mbaye

Ami Colé founder & CEO Diarrha N’Diaye-Mbaye went from social media manager (Temptu, L’Oréal) to product developer (Glossier) to starting a beauty brand for melanin-rich skin—and she’s refreshingly honest about what it took to get where she is. We discuss how her personal story is part of (but not the same thing as!) her brand; what it’s like to work with investors; the challenges BIPOC-owned beauty brands are facing; and how much fun it is for her to create gorgeous products that people love.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Diarrha Ndiaye-Mbaye – Founder & CEO of Ami Colé
Ami Colé TikTok & Instagram
Jones Road Beauty by Bobbi Brown
Aminata African Hair Braiding
Kelly Cutrone
Rebecca Minkoff
TEMPTU Airbrush Makeup
Lauren Conrad
Emily Weiss – Founder of Glossier & Into The Gloss
Glossier Futuredew
Fenty Beauty
LoveSeen by Jenna Lyons
Susie O'Connell – Vice President of Product Development at Ami Colé
S’ABLE Labs – Developed by Sabrina & Idris Elba
L'Oréal Paris Voluminous Original Mascara
Sexyy Red

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Ep. 536: Everything Showers, the Lip-Nip Connection & The Week’s Beauty News

Please welcome one more contributor to the Fat Mascara family: Julee Wilson is back and will be joining us more regularly! This week, she and Jenn discuss their shared dislike of rain shower heads; how to choose lip liner based on your nipple color (thanks, Glossier); the best products in the Fenty hair line; Beautyfor, a new organization helping to tackle the industry’s waste problem; sebaceous filaments; sexy perfumes for summer; and the disturbing truth about hair relaxers.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Welcome back Julee!
“A Relaxer Reckoning: Widely used relaxers are a health threat to many Black women.” – The New York Times article

News:
Fenty Hair – officially launched on June 13!
Julee got her hair done by Rihanna’s Hairstylist, Ursula Stephen
Yusef Williams – Celebrity Hairstylist
The Comeback Kid Instant Damage Repair Treatment Bond Builder – Julee’s favorite Fenty Hair product
Glossier Lip Line
Ami Colé Soft Shape Waterproof Lip Liner
Ami Colé Lip Treatment Oil
Eadem Le Chouchou Exfoliating + Softening Peptide Lip Balm
Beautyfor – “provides a second life to products that would otherwise go to waste, while raising money for worthy causes and fostering a community of beauty lovers.”
Beautyfor June Sale - get tickets for the June 22 event in New York City

Science Corner:
“sebaceous filament” is not a medical term - something Jenn learned when she moderated the “Moving the Needle on Ethics” Panel for Allergan Aesthetics

Raise A Wand:
Homework: We’re still asking the fam to share their products or tricks for dealing with nausea. Or call us and ask a beauty question! 646-481-8182
Listener Asuma: Jo Malone Dark Amber Ginger Lily Cologne Intense
Jenn: Future Society Invisible Woods Eau De Parfum
Julee: Ourside Moon Dust Eau De Parfum

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