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Ep. 564: Sephora Birthday Parties, Renuva & The Week’s Beauty News

February 5, 2025 Fat Mascara

Garrett joins Jenn to discuss their latest beauty adventures. On the discussion agenda this week: Tweens having birthday parties at beauty stores; a Kiehl’s campaign featuring pubic hair (and the history of the merkin!); body scrubs; bathhouses; perfume-longevity hacks; and a deep dive on Renuva, the newish non-surgical volumizing treatment that’s different than cosmetic filler or fat transfers.

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Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Dove Men+Care Body Scrub
LolaVie
Bathhouse NYC

News:
Kiehl’s Refuses to Beat Around the Bush in Unapologetic Ads
Fur Oil
My Pubic Hair Laser Regret - article in The Cut
Kids Are Having Birthday Parties at Sephora Now
Dr. Dendy Engleman - her instagram

Science Corner:
Renuva - where to find a provider
A New Cosmetic Injectable That Works in a New Way - more info on Renuva
Dr. Haideh Hirmand - her instagram

Raise A Wand:
Homework: Call us to tell us about a product you love, ask a beauty question, or share your thoughts on anything we talk about on the podcast: 646-481-8182. You can also text that number or email a voice memo to info@fatmascara.com.

Listener Katie: Penhaligon's | Liquid Love Eau de Parfum
Listener “Maya,” the nurse: Maya Base Perfume Oil
Garrett: Le Labo | Eucalyptus 20
Jenn: Soft Services | Buffing Bar

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The Truth About Kibbe Body Types with David Kibbe

January 31, 2025 Fat Mascara

Image consultant David Kibbe found fame in the 1980s with his cult-classic style guide, and now he’s updated and expanded his philosophy with a new book for a new generation. In this interview, he shares how he became a “style mentor,” how to think about developing your own personal style, the history of seasonal color analysis, why he thinks his typing system is so popular on social media—and why most people get it wrong. 

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Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

David Kibbe
David Kibbe's Metamorphosis: Discover Your Image Identity and Dazzle As Only You Can
David Kibbe's Power Of Style: A Guided Journey To Help You Discover Your Authentic Style
Charles Jourdan
An Introduction to the Kibbe Body Types {Image Identities}
Dorothy Dandridge
Leslie Caron
Strictly Kibbe - facebook group
Max Factor - mua, wig artist, & inventor
Carol Jackson
Perricone Neuropeptide Facial Cream
Lidocaine Cream
Perricone Ultra-Smooth Shave Cream
Aramis
Chanel | Antaeus Pour Homme Eau de Toilette
Canoe for Men Eau de Toilette

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Ep. 563: Before & After Photos, Mood-Boosting Perfume & The Week’s Beauty News

January 29, 2025 Fat Mascara

Jenn & Jess welcome FM’s intern, Lexi, to the studio to talk about mood-boosting fragrances and whether or not they work. Before that: How do we all feel about the term “dermorexia”? Plus: Jess shares her adventures in a Parisian flea market; we try an AI-powered skin analysis tool; Coors Light enters the beauty game; one of our listeners gives the best trend analysis we’ve heard yet; we learn how painters clean their brushes; and we Raise Wands to a cuticle oil and a $10 shampoo and conditioner.

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Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Paris Saint-Ouen Flea Market
Marche Venaison Flea Market
Eliane Parfume - the stall where Jess shopped is located at Stand 144, Allee 3, at Marche Vernaison flea market
Anna Sui Dolly Girl Eau de Toilette
Nina Ricci Les Belles Eau de Toilette
Maison & Objet
The Idea of You
Stella By Stella McCartney | Eau de Parfum

News:
Dermorexia: Is our obsession with skincare becoming a disorder?
Coors Light | The Chill Face Roller

Science Corner:
SkinGPT: New tech uses AI to assess skin and predict what you will look like after trying a new product.
Juicy Couture | Viva La Juicy Eau de Parfum
Charlotte Tillbury | More Sex Eau de Parfum - mood-boosting fragrance
Vyrao | Sunrae Eau de Parfum - mood-boosting fragrance
Edeniste | Lifeboost Love Fragrance - mood-boosting fragrance

Raise A Wand:
Homework: Julee need a liquid eyeliner that dries quickly so it won’t transfer onto her lids. can you help? Call us to tell us, or ask a beauty question, share a thought, or tell us about a product you love: 646-481-8182. You can also email a voice memo to info@fatmascara.com.

Listener Brett: The Master's Hand Soap
Jess: Manucurist Nail & Cuticle Oil
Jenn: CeraVe Gentle Hydrating Shampoo & CeraVe Gentle Hydrating Conditioner

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Best of FM: Laura Mercier

January 24, 2025 Fat Mascara

This episode is about so much more than makeup. Celebrity makeup artist and brand founder Laura Mercier shares the story of how she found her purpose and the lessons she learned along the way. We talk about her childhood in France; New York City in the 1990s; her work with Steven Meisel and clients like Madonna and Julia Roberts; the iconic makeup products she’s created; dessert; Buddhism; and so much more. If you’re feeling stuck or stagnant, or have the winter blahs, this inspiring interview is a must-listen!

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Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Laura Mercier
Elle US & Marie Claire - earliest publications Laura worked for
Steven Meisel
Madonna
Laura Mercier Secret Camouflage Concealer
Laura Mercier Tinted Moisturizer Light Revealer Natural Skin Illuminator
Happiness Becomes You: A Guide to Changing Your Life for Good - by Tina Turner
Nars, Charlotte Tilbury, Kevyn Aucoin - makeup artist brands Laura admires
Kevyn Aucoin the Sensual Skin Enhancer
Laura Mercier Eau Gourmande Creme de Pistache
Laura Mercier Eau Gourmande Tarte Au Citron
Laura Mercier Ambre Vanillé Eau Gourmande
Laura Mercier Néroli Du Sud Eau De Parfum
Laura Mercier Petal Soft Lipstick Crayon - 382 Laura
Julia Roberts
SJP

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Skincare Supplements & How Diet Affects Beauty with Dr. Rajani Katta

January 17, 2025 Fat Mascara

Dermatologist Rajani Katta, MD, explains how vitamins are (and aren’t) regulated, how to judge the safety and efficacy of skincare supplements, and the truth about collagen powders, biotin, vitamin A, and other hair, skin, and nail vitamins. Plus, we learn how your diet affects your skin and hair, which supplements can affect medical tests, and how certain foods can help neutralize free radicals and protect against damage. This interview originally aired in 2020 and has been re-edited and includes a new introduction. 

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Dr. Rajani Katta - her website
Glow: The Dermatologist's Guide to a Whole Foods Younger Skin Diet - by Dr. Rajani Katta
“A Low-Glycemic-Load Diet Improves Symptoms in Acne Vulgaris Patients: A Randomized Controlled Trial”
The FDA’s guide on dietary supplements
Over 50% of supplement factories that the FDA investigated last year received citations
More information on the link between diet and different dermatology conditions - this is a link to handouts Dr. Katta provides her patients, and they’re great resources if you want to learn more
Dietary Supplement Act of 1994
biotin - a vitamin often marketed to help with thinning hair that Dr. Katta says may not be beneficial unless you’re actually biotin deficient
beta carotene warning - learn more about precautions to be aware of when taking this supplement
melatonin - beware of drowsiness when taking supplements that contain this
vitamin A - learn more about precautions to be aware of when taking this supplement
more
saw palmetto - learn more about precautions to be aware of when taking this herbal supplement
Consumer Lab - this organization investigates a number of supplements. After we interviewed Dr. Katta, she emailed us to say, “If a friend asks me about a supplement she’s taking, I always check the Consumer Lab database first for results. They are an independent investigative lab that has a subscription service, but some of their content can be accessed publicly.”
The NIH answers FAQs about supplements - an excellent resource that Dr. Katta recommended if you want to learn more about the different seals she mentioned
telogen effluvium - a type of hair loss; listen to ep. 211 to learn more
transepidermal water loss
Does collagen do anything for skin? - check out this summary of 11 randomized controlled trials of collagen for skin
Consumer Lab review of collagen - some collagen supplements may contain high levels of heavy metals such as cadmium
A pilot study finds that almonds can reduce wrinkles
Taste the Nation with Padma Lakshmi - Dr. Katta has been loving this show
“Dancing Queen” by Abba - Dr. Katta’s pump-up song

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Ep. 561: Bad Bridal Behavior; the Astro Facial & The Week’s Beauty News

January 15, 2025 Fat Mascara

A bride sparked debate online for washing off her makeup artist’s work, and Jess & Jenn think there’s something bigger going on. Let’s discuss! Plus: Jess’s facial that doubled as an astrology reading; Jenn’s chrome nails; Ariana Grande thanking Botox; Armani Beauty’s new spokesman; a scientist calls in to teach us about botanical oils in hair care; heated socks for people with Raynaud's syndrome; fancy laundry pods; and so much more. 

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Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Monica David - aesthetician at Raquel New York
Honey Nail Salon
Is Pantene Shampoo and Conditioner Good for Hair? - Jenn’s article in The Cut
Shab Caspara - hair growth expert and trichologist
Erica Douglas - cosmetic chemist

News:
Demi Moore Wins Golden Globe for The Substance
Ariana Grande Thanks 'Botox and Juvederm Upon Receiving Rising Star Award
Nicholas Galatzine - his instagram
Emporio Armani | Stronger With You Eau de Toilette
Makeup Artist Speaks Out After Bride Removes Makeup Just Before Walking Down the Aisle
NYXTape
Stuck from the NYXTape - by Snowthaproduct
NYX Cosmetics | The Face Glue Gripping Primer
NYX Cosmetics | The Face Glue Gripping Setting Spray
Science Corner: Choosing the Right Plant Oil for Hair and Skin Benefits
Herbal Essence’s Hair Products - featuring camellia oil
For 2025, Garnier is partnering with the National Park Foundation to help preserve and protect national parks

Raise A Wand:
Homework: Anybody have ideas of how Jess can organizer her makeup under her bathroom sink? Call us to tell us, or ask a beauty question, share a thought, or tell us about a product you love: 646-481-8182. You can also email a voice memo to info@fatmascara.com.

Listener Jesse: Walgreens Micellar Cleansing Water
Listener: Purpose Gentle Cleansing Wash
Listener Lisa: Washes her brushes during her Everything Shower!
Jess: Laundry Sauce Laundry Detergent Pods | Italian Bergamot*
Jenn: Simxihong Rechargeable Electric Heated Socks

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Beauty Trends in South Korea with Jenny Jin

January 10, 2025 Fat Mascara

Seoul-based beauty journalist Jenny Jin joins us with a full report on 2025 K-beauty trends and the latest in South Korean beauty culture. We’re talking about her favorite products at Olive Young; Ultherapy, Thermage, Rejuran (and the Skin Botox and Winback treatment she tried); Chahong’s hair perfume; 5X5 Nail Studio; and the Miffy nails she got from Unistela. Plus: Torriden masks, Nonfiction perfumes, pudding pots, lip tints, closet sachets, antimicrobial stickers, bag charms, snack tours, Turtle chips, and so much more.   

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Below are links to the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi) reach out to us on Instagram, Twitter or via email (info@fatmascara.com).

Jenny Jin - her instagram
Colorgram | Fruity Glass Lip Tint
Olive Young - beauty retailer
Hemeko - beauty retailer
Kiu - hairstylist in South Korea
Ultherapy
Thermage
Rejuran
“Skin Botox”
Winback - the tightening treatment Jenny got in Seoul
5X5 Nail Studio - nail salon in Seoul
Unistela - the manicurist that did Jenny’s Miffy manicure
Fwee | Lip & Cheek Blurry Pudding Pot
Torriden | Dive In Hyaluronic Acid Facial Mask
Nonfiction | Neroli Dream Eau de Parfum
Tom Ford | Neroli Portofino Eau de Parfum
Chahong | Snug Calming Hair Perfume
The Rootist | Talc Free Dry Shampoo Powder
Clinique | Happy Eau de Parfum
Turtle Chips - available at H Mart
The Language of Letting Go: Daily Meditations for Codependents - by Melody Beattie

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Ep. 560: The Pantene Urban Legend, Facelifts & 2025 Beauty Predictions

January 8, 2025 Fat Mascara

Jess & Jenn are talking about “one and done” facelifts, makeup with personality (is Messy Girl the new Clean Girl?), skin tightening, the Lyma at-home laser, the next big fragrance trends, new beauty newsletters, the urban legend that Pantene is bad for hair—and how Alix Earle may have finally put it to rest. 

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Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Marissa Meltzer - her instagram
Soft Power - substack by Marissa
How to Not F*ck Up Your Face -substack by Valerie Monroe
Aesthetics Unfiltered- substack by Jolene Edgar
Office of the Surface - substack by Jamie Rosen

News:
Red-Light Hats and $2,700 Laser Kits: The Evolution of At-Home Beauty - New York Times article ft. Jess
Lyma Laser
Dr. Sean Alemi - facial plastic surgeon
Sabrina Carpenter- brand ambassador for Prada Beauty
Flamingo Estate
La Prunier
Vitner’s Daughter
Vo5 Haircare
Alix Earle’s Pantene Hair
Pantene Pro-V Ice Shine Shampoo - now discontinued
Calvin Klein Eternity | Eau de Parfum
Ralph Lauren Romance | Eau de Parfum
Elizabeth Arden Splendor | Eau de Parfum -now discontinued
Elizabeth Arden Sunflowers | Eau de Toilette - now discontinued
Fresh Life | Eau de Parfum - now discontinued
Zote Laundry Soap Bar
Hourglass | Ambient Lighting Edit Brush
Thrive Causemetics | Brush Hero Cleansing Pad





Raise A Wand:
Homework: What candle smells like “the holidays” to you? Call us to tell us, or ask a beauty question, share a thought, or tell us about a product you love: 646-481-8182. You can also email a voice memo to info@fatmascara.com.

Listener: Ozempic
Jenn: Makeup By Mario | SurrealSkin 16HR Soft Setting Spray
Jess: Clinique | Lash Power Mascara - Dark Chocolate

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Best of FM: Anastasia Soare of Anastasia Beverly Hills

January 3, 2025 Fat Mascara

The founder of the Anastasia Beverly Hills has plucked the eyebrows of Jennifer Lopez, Naomi Campbell, and Michelle Obama, but Anastasia Soare’s biggest success is her brand, which is estimated to be worth $500 million. In this interview (which originally aired in 2020), she tells us why she considers herself an example of the “American Dream” and shares how she built her brand, what she wishes more people knew about brows, and some of her favorite products. 

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Below are links to the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi) reach out to us on Instagram, Twitter or via email (info@fatmascara.com).

Anastasia Soare - her instagram
Claudia Soare - her instagram
Anastasia Beverly Hills Brow Definer
Anastasia Beverly Hills Brow Wiz
Anastasia Beverly Hills Norvina Palette
Barbara Sturm Molecular Cosmetics - a brand Anastasia admires
Tatcha - another brand she admires!
Anastasia Beverly Hills Glow Kit
Frederic Malle Portrait of a Lady - Anastasia’s signature scent
Fracas | Eau de parfum

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How to Shop for Skincare with Cosmetic Chemist Victoria Fu

January 1, 2025 Fat Mascara

Learn how to decode a cosmetic ingredient list, which skincare ingredients actually work, and how not to waste money on ineffective products with Victoria Fu, the co-founder of Chemist Confessions. Plus, she tells us about an AI-discovered molecule that improves skin elasticity and explains how social media causes skincare misinformation to proliferate online. This interview originally aired in 2023, but we’ll be back with all new episodes next week!

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Victoria Fu
Gloria Lu
Skincare Decoded - book by Victoria Fu and Gloria Lu
Chemist Confessions
Skinceuticals
Kiehl’s
Amyris
La Mer
Revela
Isehan Kiss Me Heroine Make Smooth Liquid Eyeliner
MAC Studio Fix Fluid Foundation Spf 15
Le Labo Santal 33 Eau De Parfum
Le Labo Another 13 Eau De Parfum
Trader Joe’s Crackling Citrus Green Tea Candle - sadly no longer available
Differin Adapalene Gel 0.1% Acne Treatment Gel

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