Ep. 542: Whole Body Deodorant, Pretzel Perfume & The Week’s Beauty News

August 7, 2024 Fat Mascara

A listener called in with questions about the new whole-body deodorants, and Jenn & Garrett are here to help. Plus, we’re discussing at-home sleep apnea testing; why more men are using prestige skincare; some highlights from Cosmoprof (including a waterless shampoo and conditioner); Auntie Anne’s perfume; and—in Science Corner!— a study explaining why explosive visuals and language are so effective in fragrance advertisements.

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Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Welcome back Garrett!
BlueSleep - the at-home sleep-testing service Garrett used
Loop earplugs

News:
“Mintel Reports More Than Half of U.S. Men Now Use Skincare Products” - Beauty Packaging article
“2024 Cosmoprof and Cosmopack Awards recap” - Cosmetics Design article
Winner of the 2024 Cosmoprof Awards for Hair Products - Small Wonder’s Signature Shampoo (shoutout to our listener Courtney!)

Science Corner:
“Ignite the Scent: The Effectiveness of Implied Explosion in Perfume Ads” - Journal of Advertising Research article
VIKTOR & ROLF | Spicebomb Eau De Toilette
Auntie Anne’s new fragrance “Knead” : Eau De Pretzel (visit New York's first Pretzel Parfumerie on August 13 at 433 Broadway in Soho, New York to celebrate the launch!)

Raise A Wand:
Homework: What are your “dynamic duos,” the one-two product combos that work better together—whether for lip or eye or anything else! Call us to tell us, or ask a beauty question, share a thought, or tell us about a product you love: 646-481-8182.
Listener Karen: Whole-body deodorants! What’s the story?
“Do I Need Whole-Body Deodorant?” - Jenn’s article for The Cut
LUME | Whole Body Women's Deodorant
DOVE BEAUTY | Coconut & Vanilla Whole Body Deodorant Stick
DOVE MEN+CARE | Aloe & Bamboo Whole Body Deodorant Stick
MALIN AND GOETZ | Eucalyptus Hand + Body Scrub
MALIN AND GOETZ | Eucalyptus Smoothing Body Gel
Garrett: NÉCESSAIRE | The Body Acne Solution
Dr. Dendy Engelman
Katie Jane Hughes
Jenn: KEVYN AUCOIN BEAUTY | Concealer And Color Corrector Brush

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Organizing & Cleaning Beauty Products with Vanesa Amaro

August 2, 2024 Fat Mascara

#cleantok star Vanesa Amaro explains exactly how to organize your beauty products and keep them clean. What’s the best way to remove lint and dust from a hairbrush? How do you get the inside of your makeup bag clean? Which cleaning products should you use if you’re sensitive to fragrance? Vanesa—a pro housekeeper and the Queen of Clean on TikTok—has all the answers. Plus, she shares her hair-growth secret, why her manicure doesn’t chip and the technique she uses for makeup that lasts 18 hours. This interview originally aired the summer of 2022 and is still one of our listeners’ favorites—for good reason!

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Vanesa Amaro
TikTok - @vanesamaro91
Instagram - @vanesa_amaro_
Vanesa’s Cleaning Ebook
Zep Foaming Wall Cleaner
Scrub Daddy Eraser Sponge, Dual-Sided Melamine Scrubber
Clorox Scentiva line
Fabuloso Multi-Purpose Cleaner & Floor Cleaner
ÁTHOS | Peppermint Bathroom Cleaner
ÁTHOS: Plant-Based Cleaners
ÁTHOS x Vanesa Amaro
Zflow Microfiber Glass Cleaning Cloths - 8 Pack
MR.SIGA Microfiber Cleaning Cloth - 12 Pack
FABLE & MANE | HoliRoots Hair Oil
FABLE & MANE | HoliRoots Hydrating Shampoo
FABLE & MANE | HoliRoots Conditioner
FABLE & MANE | HoliRoots Hair Mask
BELIF | The True Cream - Moisturizing Bomb
TATCHA | The Liquid Silk Canvas
ESTÉE LAUDER | Double Wear Stay-In-Place Liquid Foundation
LAURA MERCIER | Translucent Loose Setting Powder - Translucent
URBAN DECAY | All Nighter Long Lasting Makeup Setting Spray

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Ep. 541: Botox and Empathy, Makeup Etiquette & The Week’s Beauty News

July 31, 2024 Fat Mascara

Jess & Jenn discuss how to respond when people comment on your appearance. Plus: the “underconsumption” trend; a growing body of research that shows neurotoxin injections (Botox, Dysport, Xeomin, etc.) may limit your ability to empathize; beauty marketers using Reddit to sell their products; Borghese spa mud; and the science of lip-softening balms (like the new one from Eadem).

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Intro:
Mamamia podcasts
FM Episode with Mia Freedman (co-founder of the Australian media network Mamamia)

News:
Is “Underconsumption’ Really a Trend?
Jenn’s new follow - @allisonturquoise (beauty packing education!)
Jim Squires - EVP of Business Marketing and Growth at Reddit
Erno Laszlo
Science Corner: Is ‘Tox’ Affecting Your Relationship? “Emotion Perception Accuracy” study + New Scientist article
“Asking Eric” Column - the question about makeup ettiquette

Raise A Wand:
Homework: What are your “dynamic duos,” the one-two product combos that work better together—whether for lip or eye or anything else! Call us to tell us, or ask a beauty question, share a thought, or tell us about a product you love: 646-481-8182.
MAISON LOUIS MARIE | No.04 Bois De Balincourt Eau De Parfum - Bad Bunny’s Fragrance
Listener Mary: TOWER 28 | X Ouai Lip Jelly
Jess: BORGHESE | Advanced Fango Active Purifying Mud Mask
+ honorable mention BORGHESE | Advanced Fango Delicato Moisturizing Mud Mask
Jenn: EADEM | Le Chouchou Exfoliating + Softening Peptide Lip Balm - Bissap Glaze

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The History of Hairstyling with Rachael Gibson

July 26, 2024 Fat Mascara

Learn how the U.S. military was involved in the development of hairspray, why redheads are so prevalent in Pre-Raphaelite paintings, and the surprising way women in Renaissance Italy used to dye their hair in this fascinating interview with hair historian Rachael Gibson. We also talk about hair as a symbol of resistance, the evolution of the modern salon business, how technological advancements inspire new looks, and why hair trends often come back around.

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Ep. 540: How Exercise Affects Botox, Fragrance Concentrations (Explained) & The Week’s Beauty News

July 24, 2024 Fat Mascara

It’s a very sporty episode with Jenn & Julee: We’re talking about Olympian Suni Lee’s nails, how exercise affects the longevity of neurotoxin injections, the best sports bra for runners (Julee knows— she used to be a track star!), and more. Plus: Elizabeth Banks’s new movie, Skincare, and its real life inspiration; a detailed explanation of fragrance concentrations; beauty products that are better together; and the only hair gel that will keep your edges smooth and your style slicked-back when it's humid.

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Intro:
Welcome back Julee!
Julee, Co-Host of Timeless Beauty on QVC+ and HSN+ (streaming now!)

News:
“Blush blindness” New York Times article
“Ocular Side Effects of Eyelash Extension Use Among Female Students of the University of Benin” - lash extension study Jenn mentioned
Elizabeth Banks’ new movie Skincare - about Dawn DaLuise
Jenn talked to Suni Lee, ambassador for KISS Salon X-tend

Science Corner:
“High Levels of Physical Activity Reduce the Esthetic Durability of Botulinum Toxin Type A”
SheFit Ultimate Sports Bra - Julee’s favorite sports bra

Raise A Wand:
Homework: We’re asking the fam about your “dynamic duos”... your one-two product combos, whether for lip or eye or other! Call us to tell us, or ask a beauty question, share a thought, or tell us about a product you love: 646-481-8182.
Ôrəbella
CHANEL | Chance Eau Fraîche Eau De Toilette
Listener Danielle: KOSAS | Hotliner Hyaluronic Acid Contouring Lip Liner - Max +
E.L.F. COSMETICS | Glow Reviver Lip Oil - Honey Talks
Julee: AMI COLÉ | The Colé Lip Kit - Rich
Jenn: ECO STYLE | Styling Gel
Alix Earle

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We’re Curious About Jonathan Van Ness…

July 19, 2024 Fat Mascara

…and vice versa. In this collaborative episode, Jess & Jenn get vulnerable with Jonathan Van Ness, the Queer Eye star, host of the podcasts Getting Curious and Pretty Curious, and founder of JVN Hair. We swap beauty stories and discuss what first drew us to the industry. Plus, Jonathan opens up his struggles with social media and the bankruptcy of his brand’s parent company, and we chat about the beauty trend cycle, Y2K hair looks, what makes beauty products so nostalgic—and mukbangs, Fortnite, and pickleball.

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Jonathan Van Ness
JVN’s Podcasts: Getting Curious & Pretty Curious
Co-Host of Queer Eye
Founder of JVN Hair
Cécred - Beyoncé's Hair Care Line
Jane Fonda Fat Mascara Interview
Kim Kardashian & Allison Statter Fat Mascara Interview
Heather Widdows Fat Mascara interview
“The Cutting Edge” Movie
Over The Top: A Raw Journey To Self-Love by Jonathan Van Ness
Brené Brown
Caroline Hirons
Kristofer Buckle
Cheekbone Beauty | Balance Blush/Bronzer
DIEUX | Forever Eye Mask
Lip Smacker
Alterna Hair Care
Shu Uemura
Aveda
“Gay of Thrones”
America’s Next Top Model
Sun Moon Stars Karl Lagerfeld Perfume
CALVIN KLEIN | Ck One Eau De Toilette
Gucci Rush Perfume
@thecologneboy
A'Driane Nieves

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Ep. 539: Tips for Beauty Entrepreneurs, the Miss AI Pageant & The Week’s Beauty News

July 17, 2024 Fat Mascara

First, can we talk about the Devil Wears Prada sequel? After that, Jenn & Jess discuss strawberry perfumes; share tips for entrepreneurs from the Estée Lauder Companies' New Incubation Ventures Symposium; and chat about the Miss AI beauty pageant, Troye Sivan's gig as the makeup ambassador for Rabanne, heavy metals in tampons, and why the young people in old television shows look so…not young. Then, let’s Raise A Wand to Makeup By Mario’s universally flattering blush extensions and the new Sarah Creal Beauty mascara.

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Intro:
‘Devil Wears Prada’ Sequel in the Works – Puck News article
Aline Brosh McKenna, screenwriter
Jaclyn Hill
@bryanboy
Emily in Paris

News:
“The 10 Best Strawberry Fragrances to Spritz This Summer” – by Sophia Panych
Dior | HOLY PEONY
Malin+Goetz | Strawberry Eau De Parfum
Le Monde Gourmand | Fraise Fouettée Eau De Parfum
“Rabanne Announces Troye Sivan as Ambassador” – Business of Fashion article
Miss AI 2024 - Kenza Layli
Dr Kerry McInerney, Research Associate at the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence at the University of Cambridge, quoted in CNN article about Miss AI 2024
Jess attended Estée Lauder’s New Incubation Ventures Symposium
Rich Gersten, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of True Beauty Ventures
Brian Thorne, Partner at Silas Capital
Kelly Dill, Partner at Imaginary Ventures

Science Corner:
Study Finding Heavy Metals in Tampons that Jenn mentions - don’t panic just yet!
“Don’t Panic about Lead in Tampons” – from the Substack Vajenda, by Dr. Jen Gunter (recommended to Jenn by Valerie Monroe)

Raise A Wand:
Homework: We’re asking the fam to help Jess figure out the name of the Clinique mascara that had an ad with a caterpillar. Anyone remember? Call us to tell us, or ask a beauty question, share a thought, or tell us about a product you love: 646-481-8182
Listener Katie: Sex and The City & Aging… why do the actresses in their 30s look older?
The Cut “52 Year Old Woman” Image
Jenn: Sarah Creal | Back Of The Cab Mascara
Kevyn Aucoin | The Volume Mascara
Jess: MAKEUP BY MARIO | Soft Pop Plumping Blush Veil Strawberry Sunset

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How Technology Is Changing Beauty Culture with Dr. Alex Box

July 12, 2024 Fat Mascara

Futurist, tech CEO, and makeup artist Alex Box, DDes, is working to make sure that as technology continues to evolve, our humanity and creativity isn’t lost. If you feel like social media, AI, and the metaverse are negatively affecting beauty standards, our self-esteem, and artist creativity, Alex offers an alternative: What if we all work together to change the systems? In this interview, she discusses “digital dignity,” how virtual spaces can inspire real-world connections, how to avoid echo chambers, and V-Metics, a virtual cosmetics software company she founded to help makeup artists transition their skills into the metaverse—and get proper credit for the work they do.

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Dr. Alex Box, Identity Designer + Beauty Futurist
Alex’s website
Creative Director at Illamasqua (2008 - 2015)
Founder of V-Metics: the world’s first virtual cosmetic software (launching soon!)
Toyah
Boy George
Greenpeace International
CND (Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament)
“The Carrier Bag Theory of Fiction” by Ursula K. Le Guin
Clubhouse
Alex Box by Rankin Hardcover
Wayne McGregor, Choreographer of “UNIVERSE: A DARK CRYSTAL ODYSSEY”
Avakin - online fashion game
The Folk Of The Faraway Tree Paperback
“Three Studies for Figures at the Base of a Crucifixion”, Francis Bacon
The Bell Jar, Sylvia Plath
Ted Hughes

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Best of FM: Hairstylist Sally Hershberger

July 10, 2024 Fat Mascara

In this confessional and juicy interview, hairstylist Sally Hershberger takes us back to SoCal in the late 1970s, and shares how she parlayed her rock-star-adjacent life into a full-on creative career, working in salons and then on set as one of the fashion world’s favorite hairstylists. She talks about giving Meg Ryan her famous shag haircut, creating products for John Frieda, launching several of her own hair lines, and how much the salon industry has changed in the last decade. Plus, did you know our very own Jessica Matlin once did Joan Jett’s makeup? That’s just one of the stories that comes out during this interview, which originally aired in 2019. We’ll be back with all new episodes on Friday, July 12!

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Sally Hershberger
Hairdresser Paul McGregor
Hairdresser Arthur Johns
Photographer Herb Ritts
Photographer Matthew Rolston
Hairstylist Chris McMillan - creator of “The Rachel”
Photographer Helmut Newton
Siddha Yoga - the ashram that drew Sally to New York
Sally Hershberger Glam Waves Style Shaper - no longer available (but, more products available on Sally’s website!)
John Frieda
“Big Hair” - the article in New York Magazine that Jess mentions
Hairstylist Jen Atkin
Sally Hershberger Uptown NYC
Sally Hershberger Los Angeles
Sally Hershberger Nomad NYC
Serge Normant (Serge Normant at John Frieda is now closed)
24K Daily Hair Vitamins - currently unavailable
SALLY HERSHBERGER | 24k Get Gorgeous Shampoo - Sally’s fave
SALLY HERSHBERGER |24k Get Gorgeous Conditioner - Sally’s fave
SALLY HERSHBERGER |24k Supreme Body Volumizing Mousse - apply to wet hair for instant body
SALLY HERSHBERGER |24k Liquid Assets Daily Conditioner Remedy - (at-home keratin) mist onto hair when wet or dry for styling
Bumble and Bumble
SALLY HERSHBERGER |24k Golden Touch Nourishing Dry Hair Oil - (must-have for dry hair ; only available in a pack of 6)
SALLY HERSHBERGER | 24k Root Envy Ultimate Root Boost
SALLY HERSHBERGER |24k Vanity Hair Shaping Balm
YVES SAINT LAURENT | Couture Kajal Eye Pencil
Maybelline

Making Perfume Sexy Again with Kilian Hennessy

July 5, 2024 Fat Mascara

Kilian Hennessy, founder of Kilian Paris, talks about his famous last name, the history and semantics of fragrance, and the "potential consequences of making perfumed panties," in this interview, which originally aired in 2019. Plus, he explains why tuberose is better than Cheetos and what it’s like to be part of a big beauty conglomerate like Estée Lauder Companies.

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Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

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